Sep 20, 2010, 08 11 AM #1 David25 macrumors newbie
Join Date Sep 2010 Buying cigarettes online reliable or not?

Has anyone bought cigarettes online that come from a different country? For instance, tobacco or cigarettes, you can buy these online way cheaper, is it illegal to do that? or what about the Tax part of it? If you buy cigarettes online and you aren’t paying any tax on them just shipping and handling, are you then responsible to pay state tax on them? I have friends who buy tobacco online and these pay just for shipping, I somehow wonder if this is illegal or if you can get in trouble for not paying state tax? Does anyone experienced such situations, what can you advise or suggest?
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Join Date Dec 2008 Location Helsinki, Finland At least here in Finland, it’s illegal, I think it’s considered as smuggling. Only certain stores have the permission to sell cigarettes here. It may be reliable but possibly illegal, especially the tax part so in the worst case scenario, you end up getting a bigger bill than you thought.

A lot of my friends do it and they also buy snuff as that is not sold here and they haven’t got caught. You could ask your friend to buy some for you too and then pay him back. That way you shouldn’t get into trouble that easily
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Join Date May 2002 You are generally limited to how many contraband cigarettes you can have in each state, then you get into the seizure/fine/jail level.

But they are mostly going after resellers instead of consumers anyhow, so unless you buy and share/resell you aren’t going to have to worry too much.

Unless you live in a state like California who routinely combs the credit card databases of residents, big brother shouldn’t be watching too closely. However, CA does work with other states to share ideas on recapturing unpaid taxes.
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The cheapest place to buy cigarettes is on native American lands .
Online cigarette sales are usually reliable but often you have to pay by check as credit card companies may not allow that kind of purchase.
Of course the cheapest way is to quit like many of us. 1 brunetmj View Public Profile Find More Posts by brunetmj Sep 21, 2010, 06 25 PM #5 lewis82 macrumors 68000

Join Date Aug 2009 Location Totalitarian Republic of Northlandia Quote Originally Posted by brunetmj The cheapest place to buy cigarettes is on native American lands. In Canada, while it is effectively the cheapest place, you can’t bring them out of the reserve.
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Downvoting is for sissies. 0 lewis82 View Public Profile Find More Posts by lewis82 Sep 23, 2010, 01 29 AM #6 Hans Brix macrumors 6502
Join Date Jun 2010 I used to buy plenty from ($15/carton). Unfortunately, Uncle Sam wasn’t getting his cut. So, he seized all of their incoming shipments and effectively shut them down in the States. I’ve also made one order from without any issues. 0 Hans Brix View Public Profile Find More Posts by Hans Brix Sep 23, 2010, 05 39 AM #7 iJohnHenry Banned
Join Date Mar 2008 Location On tenterhooks Quote Originally Posted by lewis82 In Canada, while it is effectively the cheapest place, you can’t bring them out of the reserve. You must be joking. lol

EVERYONE buys them for fun, friends and profit.

They’ve even found that 3 in 10 butts around the Ontario Parliament buildings are Native smokes.

If you smoke, please quit. If you don’t, please don’t start. 1 iJohnHenry View Public Profile Find More Posts by iJohnHenry Sep 23, 2010, 07 13 AM #8 lewis82 macrumors 68000

Join Date Aug 2009 Location Totalitarian Republic of Northlandia Quote Originally Posted by iJohnHenry You must be joking. lol

EVERYONE buys them for fun, friends and profit.

They’ve even found that 3 in 10 butts around the Ontario Parliament buildings are Native smokes.

If you smoke, please quit. If you don’t, please don’t start. It’s still illegal, just as pot is illegal, yet kids smoke some in the cemetery next to the secondary school.

They can potentially arrest someone for possession of these, but will only do so for large quantities. I remember having read in the paper that they had caught someone with 20 000 contraband cigarettes, and they did take him to court.
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Downvoting is for sissies. 0 lewis82 View Public Profile Find More Posts by lewis82 Sep 23, 2010, 10 46 AM #9 R94N macrumors 68020

Join Date May 2010 Location UK No way. I’d never do that, even if I smoked. I would never 100% trust any site that sells medicines or cigarettes online. 2 R94N View Public Profile Find More Posts by R94N Sep 26, 2010, 07 55 AM #10 brunetmj macrumors member
Join Date Jul 2010 Location Upstate, NY HTML No way. I’d never do that, even if I smoked. I would never
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or cigarettes online /HTML These two things should not be lumped together. Online cigarette sales predate prescriptions by at least 5 years. They to were usually native American operations.
It is not illegal to walk onto a reservation and buy 3 cartons for personal use. More than that is intent to resell. I use to buy from the Mohawks 0 brunetmj View Public Profile Find More Posts by brunetmj Mar 11, 2011, 03 51 AM #11 Lone Deranger macrumors 65816

Join Date Apr 2006 I saw a BBC documentary about cigarette bootlegging the other day.
Price and legality are the least thing smokers should be worried about. It turned out that the vast majority of cigarettes being sold in illegal circles are fake Chinese products. After laboratory analyses it turned out that they contained as much as 30 times(!) the levels of toxic chemicals such as arsenic and lead when compared to regular cigarettes. Lovely! So essentially, smoking 1 pack would thus be equivalent to 600 cigarettes.
Then again, what smoker has ever heeded warnings about the dangers of their filthy habit…

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Join Date May 2010 Location Australia Why do I have a strange feeling this thread is going to outlive most of its contributors. 6 kalsta View Public Profile Find More Posts by kalsta Feb 2, 2012, 07 54 AM #13 mobilehaathi macrumors 68040

Join Date Aug 2008 Location Bay Area, CA Probably a better way to save money is to cut back on the smokes.
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Join Date Feb 2005 Quote Originally Posted by kalsta Why do I have a strange feeling this thread is going to outlive most of its contributors. because people like you will revive it.
Because I’m a smartass. 1 GoCubsGo View Public Profile Find More Posts by GoCubsGo Feb 2, 2012, 08 03 AM #15 Hellhammer Moderator

Join Date Dec 2008 Location Helsinki, Finland Quote Originally Posted by jessica. because people like you will revive it. A spammer (which has now been banned) revived this thread, not kalsta. Obviously, the spammer’s post was deleted, hence it looks like kalsta revived this thread.
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Join Date Feb 2005 Quote Originally Posted by Hellhammer A spammer (which has now been banned) revived this thread, not kalsta. Obviously, the spammer’s post was deleted, hence it looks like kalsta revived this thread. Oh man, my sincere apologies to kalsta.
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Join Date May 2010 Location Australia Quote Originally Posted by Hellhammer A spammer (which has now been banned) revived this thread, not kalsta. Obviously, the spammer’s post was deleted, hence it looks like kalsta revived this thread. Right. I saw an opportunity to make a little joke at the expense of both thread bumpers and smokers, but everyone disappeared and I was left holding the lighter when teacher walked in. So thanks for clarifying!

Quote Originally Posted by jessica. Oh man, my sincere apologies to kalsta. No worries. Thanks for the apology. 0 kalsta View Public Profile Find More Posts by kalsta Feb 2, 2012, 10 30 AM #18 GoCubsGo macrumors Nehalem

Join Date Feb 2005 Quote Originally Posted by kalsta Right. I saw an opportunity to make a little joke at the expense of both thread bumpers and smokers, but everyone disappeared and I was left holding the lighter when teacher walked in. So thanks for clarifying!

No worries. Thanks for the apology. Document it, it doesn’t come often.
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Join Date May 2010 Location Australia Quote Originally Posted by jessica. Document it, it doesn’t come often. How about I just relive it each time this thread comes back from the dead. 0 kalsta View Public Profile Find More Posts by kalsta Feb 2, 2012, 08 25 PM #20 Neolithium macrumors 6502a

Join Date Jun 2010 Location Wherever the army needs me. Quote Originally Posted by lewis82 In Canada, while it is effectively the cheapest place, you can’t bring them out of the reserve. Depending on the province, yes you can. We’re allowed up to 3 cartons per month leaving the reserve for personal use. So much as 1 cigarette more and the police will crucify you. I’ve bought them from both Ontario and Alberta reserves.

Edit DAMMIT fell for a spambot revival…
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Join Date Nov 2010 Location Away from you Oh, are we bringing this one back on topic?

I brought back a carton of smokes from Mexico once. They were cheap (less than half price vs. American market cigarettes) but clearly different. I strongly suspect that they were mostly sawdust. 0 SuperCachetes View Public Profile Find More Posts by SuperCachetes Feb 2, 2012, 08 34 PM #22 Apple OC macrumors 68040

Join Date Oct 2010 Location Hogtown buying smokes online will kill you faster … just say no
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Join Date Dec 2009 Location Long Island, New York I never smoked a cigarette in my life. I find them offensive, and wish a pack would cost $100. Let’s see how many negative votes I get
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Join Date Mar 2011 Location City of Bon Jovi, New Jersey, USA I do NOT smoke but this is what happened to my best friend’s Mother. In 1998she began buying cigarettes online. In the year 2004 she got a tax bill from the state that said she owed $17,000 in back taxes from NOT paying taxes whilst ordering them online. I do not understand how the state found out she was buying them online but they DID and sent her a massive tax bill. 0 ‘Bmac View Public Profile Find More Posts by ‘Bmac

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